GreenIvy wrote:

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ohva wrote:

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GreenIvy wrote:
Why worry?? Holder will be redeemed. Don't worry.

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I just caught your comment! Yes, Holder will be redeemed, if he even did anything wrong, and even if he isn't redeemed Kinnaman is well on his way to a great career using Holder as a launch point.

I have always resented the 'he is corrupt' assumptions from his simple statement that 'the photo worked'. In fact, I think it proves the point of the whole show, that people (both characters and viewers) jump to conclusions about guilt and innocence, 'good' guys and 'bad' guys.

I have to agree that Kinnaman won't have to return to bartending anytime soon

I think his character Holder is being set up and Richmond framed.  Misdirection is a big part of their plot structure.  From the pictures I've seen, and from what Susan G told me, the Holder is still working on the case.  Two more weeks !!

I LOVE the avatar!! I agree re Holder and the show. This show is very much about how people leap to judgment on no evidence, and so this always makes me laugh about all the ones who got mad that Holder is 'corrupt' by his statement. His statement proved nothing other than how subtle Kinnaman is at acting and making people jump to the wrong conclusion. He simply said the photo worked. Holder is obviously still on the show, and Campbell is too. I theorize he was given a doctored photo, or, at worst, took a shortcut with a photo that was 'close enough' from another toll booth the same night, shortcuts he could maybe get away with as an undercover cop.

I am starting to enjoy how many DVD reviewers--and just regular folks tweeting who are watching instant download on Netflix--are liking this show. Probably far more objective responses than the minority of TV obsessives liking to feed snark off of each other.

http://www.blu-raydefinition.com/reviews/the-killing-the-complete-first-season-blu-ray-review.html


The Killing: The Complete First Season Blu-ray Review
Posted March 16th, 2012 by Brandon DuHamel
 

Aspect Ratio: 1.78:1
Video Codec: AVC/MPEG-4
Resolution: 1080p/24 (23.976Hz)
Audio Codec: English DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 (48kHz/24-bit)
Subtitles: English SDH, French, Spanish
Region: A (Region-Locked)
Rating: NR
Run Time: 587 Mins.
Discs: 3 (3 x Blu-ray)
Studio: 20th Century Fox
Blu-ray Release Date: March 13, 2012
List Price: $49.99


Not since Twin Peaks has a television series dealing with a murder mystery been so effective as AMC’s new crime drama The Killing, based on the Danish series Forbrydelsen. A complete move away from the banality of the normal, phoned-in crime procedurals that clog up the airwaves these days, The Killing, set in Seattle, Washington – a perfect stand in for the original’s Scandinavia – is a series-long arc, with each episode lasting roughly 24-hours. That isn’t all that makes it outstanding, however. The remarkable craft in The Killing is its exposition on the effects of a crime on an entire community, including family, friends, acquaintances and the public at large as the circle of suspects grows ever larger in the gruesome killing that is at the epicenter of the drama, causing a ripple effect that creates hysteria, violence, an atmosphere of racial and religious intolerance, and causes otherwise decent people to do horrendous things.

On the eve of her leaving the police force in order to move herself and her 13-year-old son to San Diego to join her fiancé and settle down, once and for all, to a life of marriage and domesticity, Seattle Police Department Detective Sarah Linden (Mireille Enos) stumbles into a murder investigation that will have major repercussions. 17-year-old high school student Rosie Larsen (Katie Findlay) turns up dead, and Sarah must stay on to take the lead in the investigation while training her replacement, Detective Stephen Holder (Joel Kinnaman), a new transfer from the vice division.

The investigation grows ever more complex as the two detectives dig deeper into the crime, with the circle growing to encompass many likely to have committed the murder. It even has ties to the campaign of a Seattle City Councilman (Billy Campbell) running for the Mayor’s office, being that Rosie’s body was found in the trunk of one of his campaign’s cars, which was reported stolen. The investigation moves from focusing on Rosie’s teacher (Brandon Jay McLaren), a black muslim married to one of his former students, to one of her former boyfriends, even to her own father (Brent Sexton), a former Polish mob strong man, and many others.

Across its 13-episode, fortnight arc, the series touches on everything from political intrigue, racial profiling, teen drug use and sexuality and religiosity against the bleak, rain soaked backdrop of Seattle. In perhaps what was the perfect casting (and bit of writing) Mireille Enos plays one of the best detectives on television today. I say detective, rather than “female detective” because, the writers haven’t encumbered her with the usual baggage reserved for women in these roles. She is neither playing a woman trying to overcompensate by being very “macho” or “one of the guys” nor is she a weak sidekick who must take the backseat. She is strictly in control from the beginning here, but allowed a normal sense of vulnerability, a single mom struggling to raise her kid in the absence of his deadbeat dad. This makes her character all the more compelling and relatable. It also helps offer The Killing a sense of realism anchored in the everyday.

Video Quality


The Killing is an original Super 35mm film production captured with Kodak Vision2 Expression 500T 5229 high-speed film stock. This particular film supposedly has a relatively small grain size for a such a high speed film, but, as anyone watching this production can see, The Killing is still a rather grainy series, particularly in the darker scenes, a characteristic of the source. It also has a gloomy, desaturated look. No worries, however, although some might balk at the textured grain and lack of “pop,” I have no doubt that this AVC/MPEG-4 1080p transfer from Fox looks pretty much as the creators intended and see no signs of digital manipulation at play in the image nor do I see any effects of the compression.

Audio Quality

A rather fine DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 (48kHz/24-bit) soundtrack is offered for The Killing that shows remarkable low frequency extension, particularly during the opening credits, for a television series. Given the nature of the series, much of it is very dialogue-heavy, but opportunities abound to surround listeners in the driving sound of rainstorms, sirens, and police radios. Dialogue is full with only the subtlest hint of clipping from time to time

Supplemental Materials

The audio commentaries provide the most information on here, whilst everything else is just window dressing.

The supplements:

• Orpheus Descending – Extended Season Finale
• Commentary on The Killing (Pilot) with executive producer/writer Veena Sud
• Commentary on Orpheus Descending with actress Mireille Enos and writer Nicole Yorkin
• An Autopsy of the Killing
• Gag Reel
• Deleted Scenes

Overall:

What at first seems like it is going to be the usual crime fodder on television opens up and becomes an atmospheric and addictive treasure trove, every episode dripping with its Scandinavian roots, yet artfully realized for U.S. audiences in an American vernacular. This is like Stieg Larsson meets Henning Mankell with the slightest hint of Stephen King for good measure. Highly recommended.

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ITA Ohva, I instantly saw that with the family shots, in the top one it almost seems like Michelle was pasted in at the last moment. I'm really looking forward to season 2 can't wait until it starts.

I think we need to learn more about the mom. I keep reminding myself that it's just 13 days since her daughter was murdered, but I don't understand the degree of her detachment with the two boys. Was it always this way? I sensed that the aunt and Rosie paid more attention to the boys than the parents did.